TRAIN ORDERS

Train Orders were usually filled out by station operators along the affected trains route.  Some railroads used a Form 31 for specific purposes as well as the more customary Form 19.  They were then conveyed to both the conductor and engineer of each affected train.  Train orders trumped timetable-specified instructions and were very carefully worded so as to avoid collisions or other serious consequences.  This common system known as “Timetable and Train Order Operation” started in 1851 and lasted for more than 100 years (with refinements).  For our purposes, the conductor/engineer of each train will be required to act, in a modified manner, as an operator along with running the train.

The Form 19 (Train Order) were typically a very thin light green paper form (known as a “flimsy”)  They were written on by a blunt writing implement with carbon paper between multiple copies.  A hard surface (usually metal) was placed under the last copy so the agent could press down hard enough to render all copies legible.    Once filled out, the train order is read back to the dispatcher, who underlines each word in his log book as it is repeated back to him.  This ensures accuracy in transmission of the order.

Often orders are issued to two or more operators in different locations in order that each train affected by the order is issued a copy.  Form 19 can then be given to the conductors (and engineers) of each affected trains.  After receiving the train order(s), dictated by the dispatcher, the station operator changes the train order signal from its normal “GREEN” to “YELLOW” as the signal to the oncoming train to be ready to receive a new order.  The  Form 19, along with a Clearance Form was then “hooped” up to the moving train as it passes the station.   We will not be using “hoops” to deliver train orders for our model railroad operating sessions, nor will be setting train order signals to alert engineers to slow or stop for orders.  As far as I know, none of us has installed working train order signals (yet!).

Another term related to train orders is “Forms of Train Orders”.  This does not refer to different form numbers, but rather to a standardized manner in which different types of train orders were written.  If only they had called them “Styles of Train Orders” it would not sound so confusing.  We may need to refer to Jim B. before we start issuing these train orders.  One rule with train orders is no punctuation.  An example of one form of train orders is the “G” order.  The “G” form of train order is issued by the dispatcher to authorize running of an extra train.  (Some railroads ran/run all or most freight trains as extras.  This would add much increases complexity for us starting out, but, could be very interesting as we gain experience.)

Another, similar form, known as Form 31 was used by most American railroads.  This form could not be “hooped” up to moving trains.  The train’s conductor was required to stop the train and take the train order directly from the station operator and usually to sign for it.  This was indicated on the train order signal by changing it from its normal “GREEN” to “RED”.   We will not be using Form 31 for model train operations as we neither have station operators at each station, nor do we have enough aisle space to be wandering around to obtain this piece of paper in person.

 (Scroll down below Form 19 for more on this subject)

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Whether we use radios, telephones, or the dispatcher shouts out the train order, the conductor and/or engineer will fill out the Form 19.  An alternative would be for the dispatcher to fill it out (not prototypical) and pass it along to the affected train conductor/engineer team (or individual).  The dispatcher can keep a log of train orders, much like railroad dispatchers did if a lot of train orders are issued.

Some railroads ran all of their freight trains as extras, rather than by schedule.  For our purposes as model railroad operators, this adds a substantial amount of complexity and should be avoided until such time as our we become proficient at moving trains without confusion or mishap.

Train orders can be used when necessary for smooth operation when unforeseen events occur (e.g. bathroom breaks, cookie breaks or excessive jibber-jabber)

 

 

 

3 thoughts on “TRAIN ORDERS

  1. in canada in the 50s thru 70s we were instructed to display our yellow or red board BEFORE the order was issued. also another difference . NO 3244 sounds like an engine number rather than a scheduled train as in 241 which means it likely an extra train? given superiority to scheduled 241 (241 take siding)

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    1. I started this website about ten years back for our operating group here in western Massachusetts. I was surprised to see how many times the site has been visited by others. We were fortunate to have had a member (now deceased) who had worked all his life on railroads (NYC, CV, etc.) in upstate New York and western New England to advise us on operations. Any errors are mine

      On the sample train order, the 3244 appears in the heading above the order as the engine number. We never ran on this railroad with a schedule so there was no reason to think either number referred to a scheduled train. So, you would be correct that in this example, both would be running as extra. Not having worked on a railroad and not having Jim around anymore, I don’t know what yellow or red board means or whether it was a rule on any railroad he worked on.

      Thank you for taking the time to comment. It’s good to know that someone is reading it. I gather from your comment that you are a retired railroad employee and look forward to any input. I have not edited any pages other than our operations schedule for several years as our number has diminished and our “dispatcher” moved away.

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      1. I stand to correct myself.
        When a train is designated as Number 241 that telling the crew 2 things. Firstly they are a scheduled train and secondly because they are scheduled they are superior to non scheduled trains which run as extras
        As in extra 3244 west (or east)
        NO. 241 would normally stay on main track and extra 3244 take siding if rules of superiority followed but in real life situations the dispr. Decision is based on, length of siding ,grade, length of train and who likely to be there first .
        A red ,yellow or clear board is a semaphore board with green, yellow or red lenses fixed on outside of train station used by the train operator to signal approaching trains. Red light, stop short of next siding switch for meet or take siding for a meet. yellow light continue and expect a meet next siding or other instructions. Green light clear. No orders continue. Clear as mud.
        We used the 1962 revision of operating rules so I was wrong stating “in the 50s”.
        I started as a train order opr. In 67,
        Did relief summer work dispatching train order territory northern BC
        Ending up in Vancouver BC on a very
        Short CTC system involving an interlocking lift span rail bridge
        Found your video pretty interesting.

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